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	<title>Comments on: Impressing Girls with Vista Memory Protection Bypasses</title>
	<link>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/</link>
	<description>Continued ramblings on software security and code auditing</description>
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		<title>by: valiant</title>
		<link>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-32597</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Remember

There&#8217;s two meanings. I fall into both. The code hacker, who lives to program and does it the hard way, and the system hacker, who loves finding exploitable features in systems to gain access, does so, notifies the sysadmin and patches the hole.</description>
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<p>There&#8217;s two meanings. I fall into both. The code hacker, who lives to program and does it the hard way, and the system hacker, who loves finding exploitable features in systems to gain access, does so, notifies the sysadmin and patches the hole.
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		<title>by: leenooks zealot</title>
		<link>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-31550</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-31550</guid>
					<description>Oh, crap. I&#8217;ve just got root on my Linux box&#8230;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, crap. I&#8217;ve just got root on my Linux box&#8230;
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		<title>by: mark</title>
		<link>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30442</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@Frank: We were in contact with MS before the speech and gave them advanced copies of our material. The specifics of the attacks we describe are published in the paper/slides linked from this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Frank: We were in contact with MS before the speech and gave them advanced copies of our material. The specifics of the attacks we describe are published in the paper/slides linked from this blog.
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		<title>by: Frank Hare</title>
		<link>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30436</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30436</guid>
					<description>Has anyone form MS been in contact with you? Do you plan to publish specifics about this? If so, when and in what forum?

Thanks, keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone form MS been in contact with you? Do you plan to publish specifics about this? If so, when and in what forum?</p>
<p>Thanks, keep up the good work.
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		<title>by: mark</title>
		<link>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30384</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30384</guid>
					<description>@Brook: Hey, thanks for your commentary. Alex actually wrote the part about GS, but I&#8217;ll have a go at fielding this one I suppose :). I would agree that the example is somewhat contrived (although I have to say, I&#8217;ve seen code like this many times before..). He could perhaps of modified it slightly to make it more realistic, but it doesn&#8217;t really matter - the point of the example was to demonstrate that integer arguments are not copied below local variables by GS, and hence can be overwritten. This is a pretty important limitation of the GS protections, and one that I have exploited a few times before. Whether the specific example is believable or not is neither here nor there - if you have a situation where you have a stack overflow and integer-based arguments, there might be the chance for exploitation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brook: Hey, thanks for your commentary. Alex actually wrote the part about GS, but I&#8217;ll have a go at fielding this one I suppose :). I would agree that the example is somewhat contrived (although I have to say, I&#8217;ve seen code like this many times before..). He could perhaps of modified it slightly to make it more realistic, but it doesn&#8217;t really matter - the point of the example was to demonstrate that integer arguments are not copied below local variables by GS, and hence can be overwritten. This is a pretty important limitation of the GS protections, and one that I have exploited a few times before. Whether the specific example is believable or not is neither here nor there - if you have a situation where you have a stack overflow and integer-based arguments, there might be the chance for exploitation.
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		<title>by: Brook Monroe</title>
		<link>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30383</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30383</guid>
					<description>I&#8217;m partly along in the paper, and I&#8217;ve got to call shenanigans on some of this.  In particular, the gs4() function you provide as an example is highly contrived, and uses an internal buffer without any good need of having one.  In fact, if one of my team presented me with that sort of brain-dead coding during a code review, I&#8217;d send him or her packing, along with a pair of flaming ears.  How would your attack have fared against a properly-written gs4(), I&#8217;m wondering?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m partly along in the paper, and I&#8217;ve got to call shenanigans on some of this.  In particular, the gs4() function you provide as an example is highly contrived, and uses an internal buffer without any good need of having one.  In fact, if one of my team presented me with that sort of brain-dead coding during a code review, I&#8217;d send him or her packing, along with a pair of flaming ears.  How would your attack have fared against a properly-written gs4(), I&#8217;m wondering?
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		<title>by: squadjot</title>
		<link>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30373</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30373</guid>
					<description>good to see that SOMEBODY is doing their jobs.. (not microsoft)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good to see that SOMEBODY is doing their jobs.. (not microsoft)
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		<title>by: Dimchansky</title>
		<link>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30357</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30357</guid>
					<description>Where can I download source code?</description>
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		<title>by: joey</title>
		<link>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30350</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30350</guid>
					<description>damn you mark dowd! you killed the interwebs again!</description>
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		<title>by: jm</title>
		<link>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30318</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://taossa.com/index.php/2008/08/07/impressing-girls-with-vista-memory-protection-bypasses/#comment-30318</guid>
					<description>@mark Although, I think you do have a moral responsibility to state that they are, in fact, internet hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mark Although, I think you do have a moral responsibility to state that they are, in fact, internet hilarious.
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